Snakeoil 1.3.0 Alpha 2

[agent_kith]

Switch Kernel and reboot 
Always the latest version

That kernel only really works for the x86_64 atm. Pi uses a different system. This will be fixed, but unsure if I can do this before the official release.

[agent_kith]

Fixed the issue with for Raspberry Pi OS build. Use the same command in the first post.

@uglymusic Looks like Pi foundation is not going to get 22.04 LTS to work on Pi 5. But apparently 23.04 works. Can you try and boot 23.04 but still run the ubuntu jammy aarch64 script? I'm going to try doing this on the Pi 4 tomorrow.

As for releasing pre-built images. I reckon the hosting services required will be roughly AUD $200 to $300 per month. I just don't think it's worth it. I mean even if this project get enough money coming in, I just don't feel comfortable putting $200 per month just to have the capability to host big file downloads (and the build environment to keep those files).

Maybe I'm being more financially prudent, or AUD has absolutely tanked. Looking at the hosting prices, they're kind of shit right now to be honest. Isn't this week supposed to be black Friday and cyber Monday deals?

Australia home internet situation just makes hosting at home impossible (I don't even have a fixed Internet wire at home, only wireless and the speed to the Internet is a measly 10 Mbps with a very high latency). Different story if I'm living in HK or Singapore though.

Good thing is Snakeoil is an open sourced project with MIT license. Not stopping folks to provide this service to others. For users downloading pre-build images, just apply common sense and make sure any product you download and use is free from spyware and malware.

Will spin up a new beta 1. And then officially releasing Measurements. There's a mandatory shutdown period at work (Christmas to new year), I'm hoping to use that window to actually release 1.3.1 (with DSP), so 1.3.0 has to go out sooner rather than later.

Wiki updates to the new Measurements will have to come later. I didn't even have the time to update the software on the day job I'm working on.

[Snoopy8]

Apologies, but unable to test Alpha 2.  Hope to join Beta 1.

[uglymusic]

Right now with this new installer method it's just a one liner command for anyone to cut & paste. This is as easy as it gets. 

There are inherent problems with Snakeoil providing ISOs and images. It's down to money and time. So while it may seem easier on your side, Who's paying for that ultimately? I am (+ 1 sponsor).

I'm personally down AUD $50 to $70 every month. Supplying multiple ISOs will add to those costs. High cost of living in Australia and lack of job security means I have to be prudent.

Maybe I should start a kick starter project to ask for funding? Or maybe I will do a coffee pledge.. Will think about this in.. stay tuned.

Times seem to be hard for everybody.. Looking at the the server prices right now, they're hardly worth it (Maybe things will sweeten come cyber monday?)

I meant no offence, AK. I hadn't been aware of the difficulties of maintaining the software and how much you're paying for hosting (surely you can save money there if you can find time to move everything (I know, I know)).

Maybe having more SO users will help with donations. Maybe they will merely increase the support burden. I don't know.

Meanwhile, I'll stick to increasing my meagre Linux skills 

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Fixed the issue with for Raspberry Pi OS build. Use the same command in the first post.

@uglymusic Looks like Pi foundation is not going to get 22.04 LTS to work on Pi 5. But apparently 23.04 works. Can you try and boot 23.04 but still run the ubuntu jammy aarch64 script? I'm going to try doing this on the Pi 4 tomorrow.

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I've tried 23.10, but no go. I'll see if I can find 23.04 - it's not on the RPi Imager AFAICS.

I'll get back on to it tomorrow. Thanks!

[Snoopy8]

Maybe having more SO users will help with donations. Maybe they will merely increase the support burden. I don't know.

Meanwhile, I'll stick to increasing my meagre Linux skills 

Given your wide use of Pi's, perhaps you can help AK by reviewing the Wiki and improving the content on Pi side?  That will free up AK to spend more time improving SO itself.

[agent_kith]

I meant no offence, AK. I hadn't been aware of the difficulties of maintaining the software and how much you're paying for hosting (surely you can save money there if you can find time to move everything (I know, I know)).

It's not really difficulty per se. Just trying to be a bit more prudent money wise. Some of these costs do add up and I'm always trying to make sure my spending don't get more out of hand than it already is.

Maybe having more SO users will help with donations. Maybe they will merely increase the support burden. I don't know.

More users is always better. Getting more people to listen to their music effortlessly is always good Don't really need to donate. For now anyway I'm happy to put in $100-$150 every month for this project. Have grown professionally and increased my skills in all levels since Snakeoil's inception.

The server I'm getting ain't bad to be honest, I'm getting a lot of server and compute hardware for $100 per month. On better known platforms AWS/Azure etc I'll probably be paying closer to $500 per month (probably more). I just don't really want to waste the resources on downloads, prefer to do it on compute.

Yes, it is a compromise, but 1.3.0 system is easier than 1.2.0, and that itself is also easier than 1.1.0 and earlier.

I've tried 23.10, but no go. I'll see if I can find 23.04 - it's not on the RPi Imager AFAICS.

I'll get back on to it tomorrow. Thanks!

That kind of sucks? 23.10 is supposed to work with Raspberry Pi 5. I'm going to order the Pi 5 only in Jan so it'll be a while before I can get my hands on.. While you can test the Raspberry Pi OS now, to be honest, Ubuntu just feels faster and more responsive (as it should as Ubuntu is streamlined for speeds while Debian is more for generic support)

[criminalzen]

My pi5 is in the  mail and should arrive this week. I have both 23.10 and 23.4, along with the new pi bookworms waiting to compare with ubuntu versions. I am running the ubuntu 22.04 + raspi kernel on my pi 4 and it usually stable but does occasionally have a bit of distortion - I cannot determine any characteristics that given songs share, but will keep at sussing it out.  Overall a great pleasure to use, and I am learning to enjoy mpmpd as well...

[uglymusic]

 

I've tried 23.10, but no go. I'll see if I can find 23.04 - it's not on the RPi Imager AFAICS.

I'll get back on to it tomorrow. Thanks!

That kind of sucks? 23.10 is supposed to work with Raspberry Pi 5. I'm going to order the Pi 5 only in Jan so it'll be a while before I can get my hands on.. While you can test the Raspberry Pi OS now, to be honest, Ubuntu just feels faster and more responsive (as it should as Ubuntu is streamlined for speeds while Debian is more for generic support)

I should have added with SnakeoilOS. 23.10 is running happily on the RPi 5.

As 23.04 hasn't been prepared for the 5, I'm not going to be trying it out. What I will be doing is to try Alpha 2 again. It took me three attempts to get Alpha 1 to reboot on the 4 for reasons I don't understand.

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My pi5 is in the  mail and should arrive this week. I have both 23.10 and 23.4, along with the new pi bookworms waiting to compare with ubuntu versions. I am running the ubuntu 22.04 + raspi kernel on my pi 4 and it usually stable but does occasionally have a bit of distortion - I cannot determine any characteristics that given songs share, but will keep at sussing it out.  Overall a great pleasure to use, and I am learning to enjoy mpmpd as well...

Welcome to the club

[uglymusic]

Maybe having more SO users will help with donations. Maybe they will merely increase the support burden. I don't know.

Meanwhile, I'll stick to increasing my meagre Linux skills 

Given your wide use of Pi's, perhaps you can help AK by reviewing the Wiki and improving the content on Pi side?  That will free up AK to spend more time improving SO itself.

I'm pushed for time, too - aren't we all? - but I'd be very happy to have a look at the wiki content.

In other words, it may be a week or two before work calms down enough for me to find enough time to engage with it productively.

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I've tried 23.10, but no go. I'll see if I can find 23.04 - it's not on the RPi Imager AFAICS.

I'll get back on to it tomorrow. Thanks!

That kind of sucks? 23.10 is supposed to work with Raspberry Pi 5. I'm going to order the Pi 5 only in Jan so it'll be a while before I can get my hands on.. While you can test the Raspberry Pi OS now, to be honest, Ubuntu just feels faster and more responsive (as it should as Ubuntu is streamlined for speeds while Debian is more for generic support)

The issue is that Snakeoil OS doesn't install on 23.10 64-bit server. Here's the output from Terminal:

Running kernel seems to be up-to-date.
 
Failed to check for processor microcode upgrades.
 
No services need to be restarted.
 
No containers need to be restarted.
 
No user sessions are running outdated binaries.
 
No VM guests are running outdated hypervisor (qemu) binaries on this host.
      - Status: Installing... OK
  + Creating media folders... OK
  + Download LMS... OK
  + Download Snakeoil RestAPI server... OK
  + Download Snakeoil Blob... OK
  + Install Snakeoil RestAPI server... OK
  + Installing Snakeoil blob, please be patient... /usr/local/sbin/snakeoil-rest: 1: cannot open html: No such file
/usr/local/sbin/snakeoil-rest: 2: Syntax error: redirection unexpected
ERROR
# Install aborted with errors!
davidrosam@SOalpha2rpi5:~$

So, I'm stuck. And I suspect we all are until you get your RPi 5, @agent_kith?

[agent_kith]

Code:

ERROR
# Install aborted with errors!
[b]davidrosam@SOalpha2rpi5[/b]:[b]~[/b]$

That could be a bad download. Can you delete everything in /media/snakeoil_cache and run the script again?

So, I'm stuck. And I suspect we all are until you get your RPi 5, @agent_kith?

This is OS specific I believe, as such I should be able to try 23.10 on a Pi 4 and see how it goes. Will try and find some time this weekday, otherwise it'll be the weekend again.