then I rebooted.
Seems I was a little over zealous when i apt purged the LAMP stack.. and completely messed things up ..
re-installed ubuntu server (20:10 LTS for safety sake) .. ran the install script ...BOOOM everything works ... seems to be MUCH more in the web interface so despite it seemingly working before, I think it's finally working correctly.
My Fault completely ....
On to actual testing ..
Thanks for all the help
Tim