dsd over hdmi

[agent_kith]

so the dsd over hdmi might be good with something like an oppo player? using sacd's?

Kind of. For the Denon 3808, you will need the 2930 or the 3930 (these 2 models still use ethernet cable for the HS/Link). Newer models use HDMI for HS/Link.

i think if thats the case i wont bother. im about to buy a secondary dac, the topping d90 so i can go fully balanced... that will be for my snakeoil setup. and ill put my current dac in the second room.

the topping does i2s connection via a hdmi cable. and thats where it gets tricky. if i can get the hdmi on snakeoil working, in theory i could buy a hdmi to i2s converter from ebay for $50 and then run it into the dac

ps audio do this with their streamers and cd players ect. only difference is the ps audio stuff is about 20thousand dollars.

i have just never liked usb, i am a music producer/engineer and usb has to be the worst way to convert from analog to digital and then back from digital to analog.. because of the way usb works by sending packets,

A fun fact. Every equipment in a balanced setup needs to be balanced for it to work. So there is a + and a - for each Left and Right channel. This is how it rejects common mode noise. So for a fully balanced setup, you need to find something that sends data (and the inverse of the data).. HDMI and USB are balanced signal cables.

Having said that, I honestly never liked the two.. With music, on my DAC, I'm surprised to find out that i prefer S/PDIF over USB when I'm playing CD music.

i am currently using a firewire adc/dac in my studio which is fantastic. very low latency. unfortunately firewire has become pretty much redundant, and replaced with thunderbolt. i think thunderbolt is pretty much being phased out because of usb c. 
a thunderbolt dac would be the best i would say. only high end audio interfaces adc's/dac's  have thunderbolt connections.
some of these dac companies should change to atleast usb c. most hifi dacs still use usb 1.

Most DACs are USB 2.. There are some that's USB 3.... USB 1.0 and 1.1 don't have enough bandwidth for music (their speed is only good for mouse, keyboards and serial ports).