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RE: Measures 1.3.0 Beta 1 (Last test hopefully. - hkphantomgtr - 09-Dec-2023 (09-Dec-2023, 07:47 AM)agent_kith Wrote:(03-Dec-2023, 02:33 PM)hkphantomgtr Wrote: 6. Yet Roon bridge can't be installed thru Snakeoil software menu, it needs the "Roon Bridge (armv8)" in here, so I ran following line, then bridge is installed easily and successfully.Whoop! I forgot that Snakeoil Pi is 64 bits now. Will need to update and download the 64 bit build. Even though 64 bit OS can technically run 32 bit applications, I'm pretty sure the stock image will not include the 32 bit toolchain to run 'em. Creating a ticket to fix this for 1.3.0 official. Hope to still do so this weekend. Thanks. For the reboot, I'm sorry that I misled here. I mean together with the ubuntu os installation, update and etc, not only SO installation. And for the kernel to boot, definitely I'll follow your direction. Previously I've tried some method from internet but got no luck. And for the clock, Thanks for your info, well.... that's far beyond my knowledge to discuss about....... haha RE: Measures 1.3.0 Beta 1 (Last test hopefully. - Snoopy8 - 09-Dec-2023 (09-Dec-2023, 07:31 AM)agent_kith Wrote:While I have built a kernel, most people will not be able to do this. Maybe the better long term OS & Kernel going forward for Pi is Bookworm and Ubuntu should be dropped for Pi ???(03-Dec-2023, 04:08 PM)Snoopy8 Wrote: With Ubuntu Server 22.0.04 LTS, all versions of Mpd are working as expected. No stray install of MPD (dsd-018). And all libraries loaded properly. However, with implications for 1.3.1, cannot create loopback for CamillaDSPIf only I have that kernel build site up and running. RE: Measures 1.3.0 Beta 1 (Last test hopefully. - uglymusic - 09-Dec-2023 (09-Dec-2023, 07:35 AM)agent_kith Wrote:(03-Dec-2023, 09:13 PM)uglymusic Wrote: But Ubuntu 23.10 64-bit Server still returns:Need to say AMD/Intel or Pi now.. As they are all 64 bits. Yep. No worries. I'll use the Pi 5 for something else in the meantime. (09-Dec-2023, 07:56 AM)agent_kith Wrote:(07-Dec-2023, 04:37 PM)uglymusic Wrote: So, it looks as if it's my turn to own up to a FU.This makes me smile.. I'm glad I made you smile! You can boot from a USB drive on a 4 or 5, but I haven't had the enthusiasm to actually try it. I have a spare small SSD somewhere. And, as I think I've said before here (definitely somewhere!), my RPi server eats microSD cards! I now use heavy-duty SanDisk ones for surveillance cameras. (09-Dec-2023, 05:35 PM)Snoopy8 Wrote:(09-Dec-2023, 07:31 AM)agent_kith Wrote:While I have built a kernel, most people will not be able to do this. Maybe the better long term OS & Kernel going forward for Pi is Bookworm and Ubuntu should be dropped for Pi ???(03-Dec-2023, 04:08 PM)Snoopy8 Wrote: With Ubuntu Server 22.0.04 LTS, all versions of Mpd are working as expected. No stray install of MPD (dsd-018). And all libraries loaded properly. However, with implications for 1.3.1, cannot create loopback for CamillaDSPIf only I have that kernel build site up and running. I don't have a clue how to build a kernel! If I understand correctly, Ubuntu gives the opportunity to swap kernels, but Raspberry Pi OS doesn't. Is that right? If that's the case, I'd like to have Ubuntu, even if it means waiting for the LTS early next year. RE: Measures 1.3.0 Beta 1 (Last test hopefully. - Snoopy8 - 09-Dec-2023 Finally did some listening comparisons:
I suspect the difference is due to the time I have put into the NUC, e.g Bios and hardware tweaks, compared with Mercury which is my first Pi. Note the difference is apparent only when comparing side by side. RE: Measures 1.3.0 Beta 1 (Last test hopefully. - uglymusic - 10-Dec-2023 RPi 3 and 4 clients with Raspberry Pi OS 64-bit Lite or Ubuntu LTS 64-bit server are working with their respective HATs and SO Beta 1 (Squeezelite 1.6.4 and Ralph 2). Beta 1 has been running all day, every day, on the RPi 4 server with Ubuntu LTS. It all sounds good in the office. I haven't yet tried 1.3 on my big rig. The RPi 5 is sidelined for the moment. RE: Measures 1.3.0 Beta 1 (Last test hopefully. - agent_kith - 10-Dec-2023 (09-Dec-2023, 05:35 PM)Snoopy8 Wrote: While I have built a kernel, most people will not be able to do this. Maybe the better long term OS & Kernel going forward for Pi is Bookworm and Ubuntu should be dropped for Pi ???Pi only has Ubuntu and Bookworm. Dropping both will essentially drop Pi completely. That's not going to happen for now. Progress on Snakeoil is slow, but progress on Pi (hardware development) is even slower. Pi 2 and 3 plainly sucks to be honest, with Pi 4 it's just getting better. And Pi 5 might be even better. Lack of a hardware clock is a downer, but on the other hand, a hardware clock is a potential for system noise. <- Ignore this theory because almost every audio hardware has a hardware clock so I'm just being silly. Good thing with the Pi is the hardware is all the same (ignoring HATs).. If using a USB DAC (like I am going to do), the kernel I compile and use will be applicable to everybody else who uses a USB DAC. Same theory applies to the ZIMA board. Bottom line is a common hardware. Unfortunately both hardware are kind of hard to buy at the moment. But maybe next year we'll get easier access. RE: Measures 1.3.0 Beta 1 (Last test hopefully. - agent_kith - 10-Dec-2023 (09-Dec-2023, 08:10 PM)Snoopy8 Wrote: I suspect the difference is due to the time I have put into the NUC, e.g Bios and hardware tweaks, compared with Mercury which is my first Pi. Note the difference is apparent only when comparing side by side.What power source do you use with the Mercury? Mercury, if you see this shoot me a DM (which you can't because this is a private section of the forum) . lol.. RE: Measures 1.3.0 Beta 1 (Last test hopefully. - Snoopy8 - 10-Dec-2023 (10-Dec-2023, 08:15 AM)agent_kith Wrote:(09-Dec-2023, 08:10 PM)Snoopy8 Wrote: I suspect the difference is due to the time I have put into the NUC, e.g Bios and hardware tweaks, compared with Mercury which is my first Pi. Note the difference is apparent only when comparing side by side.What power source do you use with the Mercury? Both are powered by a Gieseler Kraftwerk II Dual power supply. Note that this small difference should not be the cause of alarm. Given that Intel no longer makes the NUC, with third parties taking over, I am more likely to go Pi 5 when the NUC gives up. Hence the stumbling steps with the Pi now... RE: Measures 1.3.0 Beta 1 (Last test hopefully. - hkphantomgtr - 10-Dec-2023 (09-Dec-2023, 12:41 PM)hkphantomgtr Wrote:(09-Dec-2023, 07:47 AM)agent_kith Wrote:(03-Dec-2023, 02:33 PM)hkphantomgtr Wrote: 6. Yet Roon bridge can't be installed thru Snakeoil software menu, it needs the "Roon Bridge (armv8)" in here, so I ran following line, then bridge is installed easily and successfully.Whoop! I forgot that Snakeoil Pi is 64 bits now. Will need to update and download the 64 bit build. Even though 64 bit OS can technically run 32 bit applications, I'm pretty sure the stock image will not include the 32 bit toolchain to run 'em. Creating a ticket to fix this for 1.3.0 official. Hope to still do so this weekend. Thanks. Hi, AK, I've googled for booting with desired kernel and modified the symlink. But, I still can't boot into the desired kernel. Would you please tell me how to do it when you're free? Thanks a lot. ![]() RE: Measures 1.3.0 Beta 1 (Last test hopefully. - uglymusic - 10-Dec-2023 (10-Dec-2023, 10:21 AM)Snoopy8 Wrote:(10-Dec-2023, 08:15 AM)agent_kith Wrote:(09-Dec-2023, 08:10 PM)Snoopy8 Wrote: I suspect the difference is due to the time I have put into the NUC, e.g Bios and hardware tweaks, compared with Mercury which is my first Pi. Note the difference is apparent only when comparing side by side.What power source do you use with the Mercury? So, the PSU is around 10x the price of a Pi 5 (I'm not sure if Google is giving me US$ or AU$). Wow! (10-Dec-2023, 08:10 AM)agent_kith Wrote:(09-Dec-2023, 05:35 PM)Snoopy8 Wrote: While I have built a kernel, most people will not be able to do this. Maybe the better long term OS & Kernel going forward for Pi is Bookworm and Ubuntu should be dropped for Pi ???Pi only has Ubuntu and Bookworm. Dropping both will essentially drop Pi completely. That's not going to happen for now. Progress on Snakeoil is slow, but progress on Pi (hardware development) is even slower. Sorry if I'm repeating myself, but my experience is that RPi 3 and 4 sound very much the same via HATs (I don't have two of the same for A/B testing, if that's our kind of thing, nor do I have an RPi 2). Raw USB is so far behind any HAT I've tried that I never think of USB as an option. But I'd be tempted to see if any of the other options for digital output on the RPi 5 are worthwhile. Still apologising for my total lack of knowledge about the kernel and customising it; are you saying that each HAT needs its own variation on the kernel? I know I'm misunderstanding you because I have four different HATs running - two DACs and two SPDIFs - without kernel modification. I feel a lot of Linux-related reading coming on. |