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skel - skel - 04-Jan-2025

(03-Jan-2025, 05:10 AM)Snoopy8 Wrote:
(03-Jan-2025, 04:18 AM)skel Wrote: Hi, I would like to get Camilla dsp working on SO (1.4 beta Intel CPU, Ubuntu 24.04) with LMS + UPnP Plugin, since my player works over UPnP. I read all the explanations how to install, but nowhere it is expained for UPnP - I guess it then is not via alsa or alsa-loop? STDIn/Out...?
CamillaDSP needs to work with an ALSA output. Hence not possible to use CamillaDSP on LMS (with UPnP plugin). Perhaps try the LMS DSP plugin?

Thanksfor the quick reply. I used for the brutefir plugin with LMS + UPnP bridge plugin with Ubuntu 16.04 and SO 1.2x for some years. So I thought this should be possible with Camilla as well. That brutefir plugin seems to not exist anymore. It also didn't work with Ubuntu 22.04. Tried the SQUeezeDSP plugin already without success. I had success going another way: There is a beta version of bubbleupnpserver (https://bubblesoftapps.com/bubbleupnpserver/beta/0.9-update51p1/BubbleUPnPServer.jar only this is functioning) where one can convolve with a ffmpeg command. But it sounds not so good.

RE: skel - Snoopy8 - 04-Jan-2025

(04-Jan-2025, 01:04 AM)skel Wrote:
(03-Jan-2025, 05:10 AM)Snoopy8 Wrote:
(03-Jan-2025, 04:18 AM)skel Wrote: Hi, I would like to get Camilla dsp working on SO (1.4 beta Intel CPU, Ubuntu 24.04) with LMS + UPnP Plugin, since my player works over UPnP. I read all the explanations how to install, but nowhere it is expained for UPnP - I guess it then is not via alsa or alsa-loop? STDIn/Out...?
CamillaDSP needs to work with an ALSA output. Hence not possible to use CamillaDSP on LMS (with UPnP plugin). Perhaps try the LMS DSP plugin?

Thanksfor the quick reply. I used for the brutefir plugin with LMS + UPnP bridge plugin with Ubuntu 16.04 and SO 1.2x for some years. So I thought this should be possible with Camilla as well. That brutefir plugin seems to not exist anymore. It also didn't work with Ubuntu 22.04. Tried the SQUeezeDSP plugin already without success. I had success going another way: There is a beta version of bubbleupnpserver (https://bubblesoftapps.com/bubbleupnpserver/beta/0.9-update51p1/BubbleUPnPServer.jar only this is functioning) where one can convolve with a ffmpeg command. But it sounds not so good.
Was using MinimServer (now paid version) to do convolution DSP and out was good. The other option was JRiver, but I did not go there. 

Have not tried SqueezeDSP, which is supposed to be inspired by CamillaDSP.  

Note that I no longer use UPnP because of its security risks.

RE: skel - skel - 04-Jan-2025

(04-Jan-2025, 05:26 AM)Snoopy8 Wrote:
(04-Jan-2025, 01:04 AM)skel Wrote:
(03-Jan-2025, 05:10 AM)Snoopy8 Wrote:
(03-Jan-2025, 04:18 AM)skel Wrote: Hi, I would like to get Camilla dsp working on SO (1.4 beta Intel CPU, Ubuntu 24.04) with LMS + UPnP Plugin, since my player works over UPnP. I read all the explanations how to install, but nowhere it is expained for UPnP - I guess it then is not via alsa or alsa-loop? STDIn/Out...?
CamillaDSP needs to work with an ALSA output. Hence not possible to use CamillaDSP on LMS (with UPnP plugin). Perhaps try the LMS DSP plugin?

Thanksfor the quick reply. I used for the brutefir plugin with LMS + UPnP bridge plugin with Ubuntu 16.04 and SO 1.2x for some years. So I thought this should be possible with Camilla as well. That brutefir plugin seems to not exist anymore. It also didn't work with Ubuntu 22.04. Tried the SQUeezeDSP plugin already without success. I had success going another way: There is a beta version of bubbleupnpserver (https://bubblesoftapps.com/bubbleupnpserver/beta/0.9-update51p1/BubbleUPnPServer.jar only this is functioning) where one can convolve with a ffmpeg command. But it sounds not so good.
Was using MinimServer (now paid version) to do convolution DSP and out was good. The other option was JRiver, but I did not go there. 

Have not tried SqueezeDSP, which is supposed to be inspired by CamillaDSP.  

Note that I no longer use UPnP because of its security risks.
I also use MinimServer (mainly) but there I don't need convolution since my music files are already convolved with Aourate NAS. But for streaming from Qobuz MinimServer does not work. Since my whole system is optimized for UPnP (cables and switches and the player) I want to keep it as it is. I guess security problems are everywhere....my other computers are off when I listen to music.
If you found out how SqueezeDSP works would be nice....
JRiver - as far as I know - needs a screen to be configured so VNC is needed since I use the server edition of Ubuntu (with RT kernel). Thats the last option maybe.

RE: CamillaDSP for Room Correction - Snoopy8 - 25-Apr-2025

At long last, CamillaDSP may make it in the next release, 1.4.4.🤞

As some people know, setting up DSP is not easy even with using a GUI like CamillaGui which is decent.  Suggest adding some templates (pre-configured setup) to help users start with:
  • High and low pass filter
  • Delay 
  • Phase invert
  • PEQs
  • Convolution
  • etc...
Just have to be careful with supporting CamillaDSP because we should only support the tool but users will have questions on DSP filter design.  Where do we draw the line, especially when users are new to DSP?

Have already written a Wiki page on room correction software and will improve it when CamillaDSP is out..